Warren Buffett And I Share Our Thoughts On Life and Debt




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In this Warren Buffett series, I have pulled out a few sections from the 50 years of Berkshire Hathaway Letters to Shareholders that I recently finished reading. Although the entire series was filled with a ton of business and investment wisdom, all the pieces that I have pulled for this series are from the past seven years. I will admit that it is probably due to a recency bias, whereby after reading almost 700 pages, I remember more of the recent stuff than older. Needless to say, you bet I will be reading through those letters again in the future.

This particular piece came from the 2010 shareholder letter.

The pieces I have pulled out are sections that resonated with me. So, below I have reproduced the part on “Life and Debt” and will annotate with my emphasis [BOLDED] and thoughts [in blue below]. Then at the end, I will close with my concluding thoughts and takeaways.

Life and Debt
The fundamental principle of auto racing is that to finish first, you must first finish. That dictum is equally applicable to business and guides our every action at Berkshire.

Unquestionably, some people have become very rich through the use of borrowed money. However, that’s also been a way to get very poor. When leverage works, it magnifies your gains. Your spouse thinks you’re clever, and your neighbors get envious. But leverage is addictive. Once having profited from its wonders, very few people retreat to more conservative practices. And as we all learned in third grade – and some relearned in 2008 – any series of positive numbers, however impressive the numbers may be, evaporates when multiplied by a single zero. History tells us that leverage all too often produces zeroes, even when it is employed by very smart people.

Yes, leverage can be a powerful tool in increasing your returns. Take investing in real estate, which typically requires a minimum 20% down payment. If you put the minimum 20% down like most investors would and finance the remaining 80%, you have effectively leveraged yourself 5:1. This is a great position to be in when the value is appreciating. Let’s continue with this example and assume that the value of the property increases by 5% from your original acquisition price. With this sort of leverage, you are actually earning a 25% return on your equity. That sounds fantastic until you realize that leverage cuts both ways.

If the value were to instead decrease by 5% from your purchase price, and you are leveraged at 5:1, you would have experienced a 25% reduction in your equity position. Let’s take this example a little further and assume that we have another major financial crisis that leads to a 25% reduction in the property’s value, which isn’t hard to imagine happening since property values sunk more than 50% in some markets in the last crisis. (Trust me. I experienced a 65% decline in our investment condo, which took the better part of eight years to get back.) In the case of a 25% decline in value, your equity position has now swung to a negative position, meaning you owe more than the house is worth.

Due to leverage, you just lost 125% of your equity. So, on a $100,000 investment, you have actually lost $125,000. Of course, these are all paper gains/losses if you don’t have to sell. The problem with leverage is that even the smartest people that deploy it get addicted to its positive impact on returns and forget about the downside of the magnifying effect. In turn, many people end up over-leveraging themselves, making themselves very vulnerable to going bust.

I am not suggesting that leverage is evil or even that you shouldn’t use it. All I am trying to drive home is that you should be both prudent and conservative in your use of leverage. There is a time and a place for it. I tend to be very conservative with my own use of leverage especially as our net worth continues to grow; I don’t want to bring unnecessary risk that could do damage to all the hard work we have done to get to where we are. Leverage tends to become an Achilles heel, and I am continually reviewing our financial position through a risk mitigation lens.

Related: Your Personal Leverage Ratio

Leverage, of course, can be lethal to businesses as well. Companies with large debts often assume that these obligations can be refinanced as they mature. That assumption is usually valid. Occasionally, though, either because of company-specific problems or a worldwide shortage of credit, maturities must actually be met by payment. For that, only cash will do the job.

I know Buffett was talking about businesses here, but how many individuals got caught up in the refinance mania, that played a contributing role in the ’08-’09 financial crisis? People got sucked into buying houses they really couldn’t afford with stupid loan programs, like the reverse amortization loan. Or they got bamboozled into signing up for the teaser rate (via an ARM loan), that once reset would result in a monthly payment that would never be affordable on their current income. 

Individuals were sold on two assurances: (1) house prices are never going to go down and (2) you will always be able to refinance into a new loan with another teaser rate.

It always works…until it doesn’t. 

Borrowers then learn that credit is like oxygen. When either is abundant, its presence goes unnoticed. When either is missing, that’s all that is noticed. Even a short absence of credit can bring a company to its knees. In September 2008, in fact, its overnight disappearance in many sectors of the economy came dangerously close to bringing our entire country to its knees.

Charlie and I have no interest in any activity that could pose the slightest threat to Berkshire’s wellbeing. (With our having a combined age of 167, starting over is not on our bucket list.) We are forever conscious of the fact that you, our partners, have entrusted us with what in many cases is a major portion of your savings. In addition, important philanthropy is dependent on our prudence. Finally, many disabled victims of accidents caused by our insureds are counting on us to deliver sums payable decades from now. It would be irresponsible for us to risk what all these constituencies need just to pursue a few points of extra return.

This is exactly how I feel about debt in relation to the GYFG household, especially as we start to think about having kids. I want to make sure my wife and I and our future family have a solid financial foundation, not a house of cards that could be wiped out with the slightest of winds. We enjoy a certain lifestyle. We have goals of making work optional in the next 5-10 years. We have charitable givings that we make every month. We want to create a family legacy.

We believe we can make all this possible by maintaining a much higher savings rate (50%+ of after-tax income), a very conservative amount of debt, and a high income. Even if it took us a couple of extra years traveling this more conservative path, why risk having to put in an extra few decades?

It truly would be irresponsible for us to risk our dream just for a few extra points of return.

Notice I didn’t say “no debt,” instead I said “a very conservative amount of debt,” meaning we are never going to be leveraged enough for it to cause a systemic issue to our financial well being or our long-term future. That also means it is not likely to have a very meaningful impact on our financial lives either. We make up for it by saving more than 10X the average American, and currently earning more than 6X the median household income.

A little personal history may partially explain our extreme aversion to financial adventurism. I didn’t meet Charlie until he was 35, though he grew up within 100 yards of where I have lived for 52 years and also attended the same inner-city public high school in Omaha from which my father, wife, children and two grandchildren graduated. Charlie and I did, however, both work as young boys at my grandfather’s grocery store, though our periods of employment were separated by about five years. My grandfather’s name was Ernest, and perhaps no man was more aptly named. No one worked for Ernest, even as a stock boy, without being shaped by the experience.

On the facing page Below you can read a letter sent in 1939 by Ernest to his youngest son, my Uncle Fred. Similar letters went to his other four children. I still have the letter sent to my Aunt Alice, which I found – along with $1,000 of cash – when, as executor of her estate, I opened her safe deposit box in 1970.

Ernest never went to business school – he never in fact finished high school – but he understood the importance of liquidity as a condition for assured survival. At Berkshire, we have taken his $1,000 solution a bit further and have pledged that we will hold at least $10 billion of cash, excluding that held at our regulated utility and railroad businesses. Because of that commitment, we customarily keep at least $20 billion on hand so that we can both withstand unprecedented insurance losses (our largest to date having been about $3 billion from Katrina, the insurance industry’s most expensive catastrophe) and quickly seize acquisition or investment opportunities, even during times of financial turmoil.

There is so much talk of how cash is trash but in crisis or when opportunities arise cash is KING. The richest man in the world is well aware of the impact of inflation eroding the purchasing power of idle cash. Yet, he continues to maintain a monster pile of cash. Buffett never wants to put the Berkshire house at risk by being caught in a moment of insufficient liquidity to service its obligations as a business. 

Buffett also understands the optionality that cash brings to the table. Of course, he has made some lousy capital allocations decisions, but he has never been active for the sake of being active. If no investment presented that met his criteria, he let the cash pile build until something came along. Because of this, he tends to make much larger investments, but that is to be expected when you have the patience to wait for the FAT PITCH.

Like Buffett, I have never been afraid to hold too much cash, and like Buffett, our investments tend to be large and lumpy. A couple of recent examples include (1) Investing 20% of our Net Worth into my company’s stock and (2) Investing almost $80,000 over 5 months into hard money loans through PeerStreet (about 14% of our Net Worth at the time of being fully invested).

I like to wait for the fat pitches, and I can sleep better at night knowing that we have at least a year’s worth of expenses in the bank.

Everyone needs an Uncle Ernest!

Letter From Warren Buffet's Uncle

We keep our cash largely in U.S. Treasury bills and avoid other short-term securities yielding a few more basis points, a policy we adhered to long before the frailties of commercial paper and money market funds became apparent in September 2008. We agree with investment writer Ray DeVoe’s observation, “More money has been lost reaching for yield than at the point of a gun.” At Berkshire, we don’t rely on bank lines, and we don’t enter into contracts that could require postings of collateral except for amounts that are tiny in relation to our liquid assets.

Furthermore, not a dime of cash has left Berkshire for dividends or share repurchases during the past 40 years. Instead, we have retained all of our earnings to strengthen our business, a reinforcement now running about $1 billion per month. Our net worth has thus increased from $48 million to $157 billion during those four decades and our intrinsic value has grown far more. No other American corporation has come close to building up its financial strength in this unrelenting way.

By being so cautious in respect to leverage, we penalize our returns by a minor amount. Having loads of liquidity, though, lets us sleep well. Moreover, during the episodes of financial chaos that occasionally erupt in our economy, we will be equipped both financially and emotionally to play offense while others scramble for survival. That’s what allowed us to invest $15.6 billion in 25 days of panic following the Lehman bankruptcy in 2008.

Concluding Thoughts

I tend to agree with Buffet on the above statement that over a long enough period, Berkshire’s overall returns are penalized only by a minor amount due to his caution towards leverage. I would go so far as saying that he is doing the prudent thing.

I don’t know about you, but I would trade in a couple hundred basis points in order to sleep soundly at night, and not have to deal with the anxiety that must accompany such large amounts of leverage in times of crisis. Too many things have to go right when using massive amounts of leverage, while the tiniest hiccup can create a domino effect that could, in the end, wipe you out completely.

We have all witnessed the devastating impact that debt can have when you over-leverage yourself. I will continue to be very conservative when it comes to the amount of leverage the GYFG household is willing to incur. You’re also not going to see me add leverage late in a positive business cycle, as I think that is a bad idea and the worst time to leverage up. In fact, I think the longer a business cycle goes before going into recession, the more critical it is to avoid leverage, if not in fact to start deleveraging your personal balance sheet. This is exactly what Mrs. GYFG and I are doing by paying off our mortgage in 7 years instead of the normal 30 years.

In terms of liquidity, the GYFG household will heed the advice of Uncle Ernest and will continue to maintain 6-12 months of living expenses in cash or its equivalents (like short term cd’s).

Let’s talk about it!

What are your thoughts on debt and liquidity? Are you as debt adverse as Buffet and me? What other thoughts come to mind as you read this?

– Gen Y Finance Guy

Gen Y Finance Guy

Hey, I’m Dom - the man behind the cartoon. You’ll notice that I sign off as "Gen Y Finance Guy" on all my posts, due to the fact that I write this blog anonymously (at least for now). I like to think of myself as the Chief Freedom Officer here of my little corner of the internet. In the real world, I’m a former 30-something C-Suite executive turned entrepreneur turned capital allocator. I am trying to humanize finance by sharing my own journey to Financial Freedom. I believe in total honesty and transparency. That is why before I ever started blogging, I decided that I would share all of my own financial stats. I do this not to brag, but instead to inspire motivate, and also to hold myself accountable. My goal is to be a beacon of hope, motivation, and inspiration, for you, the reader, by living life by example and sharing it all here on the blog. My sincere hope is that you will be able to learn from me - both from my successes and my failures! Read More



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12 Responses

  1. I’m anti-debt too… for us personally that is. I understand that it’s (almost) impossible to purchase a home without using debt. That’s really about the only thing, IMO, that it makes sense to finance though.

    We’ve been 100% debt-free since 2014 – house and all – with zero regrets. Even with the stock market kicking butt we’re more content with the paid off house than if we’d leveraged and left the money in the market.

    I understand it is largely a personal preference though, and depends on someone’s risk tolerance levels. Because of that I don’t “argue” with people on the topic anymore. It seems to be “right” for some, but not others.

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  3. Nice post Dom. This is Radcrowd, now with a new identity and blog.
    In my opinion, debt is a tool, but it must be used with caution. Just like a chainsaw is a tool, it must be used carefully or it can cause serious injury. I used debt to get an advanced education. I used debt to purchase my primary residence. I used debt (HELOC) to purchase a rental property. But like you said, debt cuts both ways. Everything in moderation I guess, and everyone has different risk tolerance levels. As I get closer to retirement age, I anticipate being more debt averse than I am now.

    1. Millionaire Doc – First, congrats on starting your blog, and I dig the new name.

      I like the idea of “debt as a tool.” I think where people get lost if we stick to the analogy is that when you have a hammer everything looks like a nail. It’s important to not treat debt this way in my opinion.

      Looking forward to checking your site out. Going to add it to Feedly now.


      1. Great blog and congrats on having a solid thought process regarding debt! Just wrote a blog post of my own about it.

        Totally agree about the analogy of it being a tool. Where people get into trouble is that they think they know how to use it. Then the nature of the tool changes over time (as you pointed out, like when teaser rates reset leading into the financial crisis). Also anyone taking on debt, especially consumer debt, is compounding someone else’s wealth. It’s a stealth wealth transfer from debtor to debtholder.

        I wish people would think about this every time they take on debt: Am I OK paying rent to borrow this money from someone else, making them richer, while I possibly get poorer? Will I be better off when it’s paid off? If you gain equity in a house or successful business investment, then probably yes you’re better off as long as no disaster strikes along the way. But more debateable for student loans, car loans, and definitely not for consumer purchases using unpaid credit card balances and high interest loans. Companies will also use debt like a lure to get you to impulse buy cars, furniture, and more over years of “easy payments”.

        As business or economic conditions change, the tool becomes more or less dangerous to use. People get complacent and usually pay no regard to the true long term cost (how much interest they’ll end up paying over the life of the debt), and certainly not to the fact that this can change for the worse for a number of reasons.

        Even Nobel Laureate economists have blown up because of this (Long Term Capital Management) and we’ve seen modern day examples in companies like Valeant. Their cost of debt literally explodes higher as their circumstances deteriorate and now they can barely make the higher interest payments on their debt, forcing them to sell assets. That changing nature is what makes debt such a beast of a tool. But a tool it remains 🙂

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  5. Great article, and I agree 100% with the need to hold more cash than you most experts recommend.

    I am personally holding about 1/3 of our investments in cash, and right now this amounts to about $1M. That’s a lot of cash to hold, and it’s hard not to think about how much money I could be making if it was invested somewhere making a few percent interest. However, like both you and Buffett, I’m a big believer that it’s far better to wait for a fat pitch than to just invest money because you have it, regardless of valuation.

    It’s also nice to know that we could retire all of our debts using our cash if we needed to.

    As for debt, I’m not anti-debt, but I don’t see us adding any more debt anytime soon. My hope is that over the next decade our debt will be reduced every year and our assets will increase. The only debt I might be interested in adding would be related to a new real estate investment.

    Again – great article.

    1. Wow! $1M in cash…you could really make it rain in the strip club 🙂

      It has been interesting watching your net worth updates and the mega commissions you earned. A lot of people have a hard time sitting on their hands waiting for the fat pitch. Like you, I’m not anit-debt either, I just believe there is a time and a place to leverage up, and I don’t think that time is now.

      Really cool that you have more than enough cash to put all your debts to bed if you wanted to.

      Keep up the good work!


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